How to Sell Life Insurance in a Bank or Credit Union

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Think about that. Let’s say your program today generates $5 million in annual revenue. Can you imagine $1 million of the revenue coming from life insurance? We would probably all be happy if we could get our program to do $100-200 thousand dollars a year! It begs the question, “why was Cal Fed so successful with their life insurance program and why hasn’t anyone duplicated it in the last 24 years?”

 Well, it certainly isn’t for lack of trying. I have personally attempted to repeat the structure several times. But the things that made the Cal Fed program so great are the things that have kept it from being repeated.

It all starts with leadership.

 Cal Fed Investments was fortunate to have a great leader in President Deborah Bernot. She knew what needed to be done to get our life insurance sales up to expectations and she sold the retail bank leadership on the required structure and money that needed to be invested in a successful program.

The first step was making a commitment to getting the right leader for the program. The hiring of Greg Vacca as the insurance sales leader was critical and the foundation for our success. Greg brought many years of life insurance sales to the insurance leadership role and he had a vision; a vision that each of our financial advisor sales regions had to have a dedicated life insurance specialist to achieve a best-in-class level of life insurance revenue.

 Greg realized that financial advisors didn’t want to do the things necessary to sell life insurance. They didn’t want to learn enough about life insurance to be an expert, so they avoided it. They didn’t like the fact that a turned down application could ruin a successful investment relationship. And they didn’t want to introduce something that could make them look uninformed. So, they either ended up selling a cheap term policy or avoiding the topic all together.

Fast forward to today and while advisors have become better at uncovering life insurance opportunities with the focus on financial planning, they still avoid a full-blown insurance needs analysis and potentially selling a more complicated life insurance solution. They want an expert to come in and do the heavy lifting for them and still get paid the full commission.

 This is exactly the program Greg Vacca implemented. Each of the eight regions received their own dedicated Life Insurance Specialist. To sweeten the deal, there was no competition when it came to commissions. The insurance specialist was paid a salary plus an override on the business closed. The financial advisor got paid the full commission on the sale. This comp structure alone fostered a spirit of cooperation and teamwork.

 So, how did it play out? The specialists coached the advisors how to uncover opportunities. Once an opportunity came to fore, the advisor had a choice. He/she could keep the specialist at arm’s length and go the distance alone with the sale or bring in the specialist from the beginning as part of his/her team.

Either way, both were paid the same comp they would have received otherwise. Another motivating factor was that the commission on the insurance products sold often rivaled that of an annuity, so the advisor justified handling the paperwork for the sale. 

 Having the specialists as part of their advisor team also contributed a key value add and that was their ability to generate leads. Cal Fed sold a lot of long-term care insurance. This was the era of MoneyGuard and we sold a ton of it. The specialists were great at hosting long-term care, wealth transfer and estate planning seminars to generate leads for the advisors.

 Yes, the program was expensive with eight life insurance specialists. But, with between 14% and 18% of the broker dealer revenue coming from life insurance sales, the program was profitable. There were some months where life and long-term care revenue exceeded revenue from mutual fund sales. So why hasn't this structure and approach to selling life insurance caught on? Most broker dealers have a team in a central location who will talk to you over the phone or in some cases come out to see you personally if the deal is big enough. But there is nothing like having a dedicated person just for your team whose livelihood depends on the success of your team.

 As with Cal Fed, it takes a leap of faith and a belief that you can and will generate the life insurance revenue to break even in a reasonable amount of time. You can’t base the decision on achieving a margin goal just like you shouldn’t when it comes to hiring financial advisors. The revenue will come with the hiring of the right people. Cal Fed made the right bet.

 Admittedly I was spoiled by being a part of Cal Fed Investments early in my career. The bar was set high and I have been chasing it ever since. Frustrating? Yes, but oh so worth the effort and the results. I am grateful.


Are You Hiring or Recruiting?

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A Personal Perspective: Lessons Learned

 

Over my 40 years of recruiting financial advisors, I have experienced both hiring and recruiting. Typically, I found myself hiring when under pressure, selecting who seemed like the best candidate at the moment. For example, when I joined Citibank in 2002, my previous territory was dismantled, and I had just 90 days to hire 25 financial advisors. With support from an outside recruiting agency, I still ended up hiring many unsuitable candidates. Although a few hires turned out well, relying on luck is not a sustainable strategy. These mistakes taught me valuable lessons, inspiring me to develop a Recruiting Playbook based on both my hiring errors and recruiting successes. Even with a dedicated team searching for candidates, certain critical tasks could not be delegated. This distinction between hiring and recruiting is key.

Start with the End in Mind

 For years, I have used The Ideal Candidate Worksheet, which I’ll explain how to obtain at the end of this article. This tool highlights my Top 3 Must Haves—non-negotiable criteria that every candidate must meet. If an applicant lacks any of these, it’s an automatic rejection. Understanding your program, its culture, and the people your new hire will work with is essential. Consider what skills, traits, and backgrounds you require.

Additionally, there are the “Want-to-Haves.” These are not deal breakers but are desirable attributes such as education, industry experience, earnings history, coachability, and work ethic. These preferences may vary depending on the candidate’s future role and location. You may also have a list of “Other” qualities needed for a specific recruiting assignment.

 Without an Ideal Candidate Worksheet, you risk accepting nearly anyone. Even experienced professionals cannot rely on the “I’ll know him/her when I see him/her” approach. Having made my share of hiring mistakes, I recommend coming to the assignment with a clear vision of your ideal candidate and refusing to compromise. During times when I had to hire under pressure—such as when working with a credit union executive—the Ideal Candidate Worksheet provided the evidence to educate colleagues on why this process differed from hiring a teller.

The Top 5 Recruiting Mistakes and How to Avoid Them

 

1.    Going against your “gut” feeling

 It is common to ignore or second-guess intuition. Your “gut” is your subconscious experience evaluating the candidate. Sometimes it signals a need for rejection; other times, it suggests gathering more information before making a decision. Trust your instincts.

 2.    Hiring under pressure

 The phrase, “If you don’t know where you are going you will end up anywhere,” applies to hiring financial advisors. If you lack a clear vision of the candidate you want, you will end up hiring just anyone. It’s crucial to define your “Ideal FA” for every opening and communicate this with your partners to manage expectations. Referring to these specifications helps resist pressure to fill positions quickly and ensures you do not settle for an inferior candidate.

 3.    Not verifying “Trailing 12”

Financial advisor candidates are salespeople, and some may exaggerate their production history to appear more attractive. Avoid assumptions and always verify their performance claims. If a candidate cannot provide proof of production, it is a red flag. Be mindful of state labor laws—you may not require proof, but you can request it.

 4.    Not having an ideal candidate profile

This mistake relates to hiring under pressure. Without an ideal profile, you are likely to settle for less. As the recruiting process drags on, better candidates become harder to find if you lack a clear profile. The consequences of a bad hire include wasted time, money, and damage to your reputation.

 5.    Poor interviewing techniques

Even mediocre candidates can present themselves favorably. If you don’t “peel the onion,” you won’t uncover the qualities you need in an ideal candidate. Candidates often say what they think you want to hear. Asking for examples and deeper explanations exposes the true qualities behind the surface. Always “peel the onion.”

Conclusion: Consistency and Credibility

Reflecting on your recruiting efforts, consider how many of these mistakes you have made. Most can be avoided by starting with the end in mind. Clearly define your ideal candidate, write it down, stay consistent, and never compromise. Ultimately, your credibility depends on it.

 


5 Reasons to Go All In With Your Credit Union Wealth Management Program

1. Retiring with enough money is the number one financial pain for your members. That’s right; the people walking into your lobbies and calling your call centers are more concerned about their retirement income than they are about the latest credit card deal or loan rate. The problem is they probably don’t know that you offer a service that can help them. Let them know! Spread the word in conjunction with your other core products and services. Better yet, throw some marketing weight behind the development of the program. The relationship will become stickier and more profitable.

2. Fee income is important, but synergy creates core members. Many times, over the years I have asked the question, why don’t you provide sufficient support to the investment program? One CEO responded, “Mark, the revenue from the investment program is a 'drop in the bucket' compared to our loan programs.” I get it; however, he was overlooking a critical advantage in supporting his investment/wealth management program. Those banks and credit unions that go 'all in' reap the benefits of more loyal and profitable members.

According to a Kehrer Bielan Research & Consulting study, The Value of an Investment Client to a Bank or Credit Union, bank customers and credit union members with investment accounts are 58% more likely to have a credit card, 122% more likely to have a first mortgage and 613% more likely to have a second mortgage than those without investment accounts. In addition, investment households are twice as likely to have a vehicle loan than non-investment households. Do you want to increase your loan production? Provide more support for your wealth management program.

3. Disintermediation is a non-issue. If I received a dollar every time I heard the excuse that wealth management programs deter a credit union from its efforts to gather deposits, I could buy a couple of shares of Apple. I submit that just the opposite is true. According to that same Kehrer Bielan study, investment households studied had an average of $28,000 in savings – 140% greater than the average savings account balance of other households. So, if you want to retain/increase your deposits, support the financial advisors sitting in your branches. “Oh, that’s just a study”, you say. Here is a current example from one former credit union client that conducted their own study:

4. Wealth Management households are your most loyal households. Years ago, people would say that if you want to get a loyal household just get them to sign up for a direct deposit. It’s such a pain to change they will never leave. Well, you might keep their Social Security coming into their checking account but not much else. Their 'real' money is down the street where they have their investment account. Investment households are 27% more likely to stay with their bank or credit union where they have their investment relationship than other households, again according to that same Kehrer Bielan study.

5. Your wealth management program is the gift that keeps on giving. The days of the 'one and done' transactional advisor are behind us. More programs and advisors are embracing the benefits of fee-based accounts and managed money. Recurring revenue from these financial solutions grows exponentially over the years. No longer does a program or advisor start from zero each January or each month. A credit union that makes a long-term commitment to their wealth management program will reap the benefits of exponential growth in the future. That revenue will sustain a program’s fee income contribution and cover its costs.

So, the question is, are you just 'dabbling' in your wealth management program or are you ready to go 'all in'? If your credit union members had a vote, I guarantee they would want you to go 'all in'. Great service is all about providing for your members' and customers' greatest financial needs. Having a best-in-class investment/wealth management program is what your members need. If you don’t provide it, the competition will -- and we all know that the competition for our members’ wallets is growing each day.

Have questions? Need help growing your wealth management program? Let’s talk.